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terry2


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This mark is on a Toby Jug.  It has the Staffordshire knot, a lion and griffin, a shield...
Peter at 'figurines-sculpture.com', answered an inquire about a cookie jar with the same mark.  He could not identify but thought it may have been a small company exporting to the USA.  The cookie jar owner then reported finding a similar item on ebay and noted the cookie jar was imported from Japan in the '60s &'70s as a reproduction!
I saw the mark again on a site 'worthpoint.com' in an article by Lisa Marion "Fake porcelain Marks: Recognizing Forged or imitation Marks or Ceramics" - just the picture and no explanation about it.
The Toby was in my mothers collection, and that goes back to the '40s.  We don't remember any additions to the collection of Tobys.
All the other items are identified except this one!
Any help would be appreciated.


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bart


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hi
This one is easy its Chinese import mostly on european staffordshire reproduction.
Ca. 1970 - 1980

regards

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terry2


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Bart,

 

I don't know if you just replied or it took 10 years for your reply to arrive!!!!  Regardless - thanks.

 

Helps to resolve the mystery.



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yeah i am a new member here and wanne try to get this forum active again

regards for more info about anything you can Always mail me lyandepow@gmail.com

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The mark is indeed a montage and not real. Calling it "fake" would be incorrect as no such mark ever existed in the first place. What you have there is an item made in Japan by the Hachiya Brothers for the US company of A.A. Importing Co. Inc. from St. Louis/Missouri, a company known for various creative marks. You can even find examples of this mark together with the original A.A. stickers around.

Chris Marshall

www.porcelainmarksandmore.com



-- Edited by Turtletronic on Monday 4th of December 2023 09:33:26 PM

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terry2


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Yikes Chris - that is it - I looked up Hachiya Brothers and there it was!!!!

Greatly appreciate it.

For interest I have attached a pix of the Toby

 

Also while I'm thinking about it I have a tankard I couldn't figure out until you gave me some hints, and volia I found it!!

Tankard 3 didn't quite come out as I expected - it says YE OLD CROWN AND SCEPTRE

 

Many thanks for helping solve the mystery - I'll sleep better now!!

 

Terry



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